People who have astral traveled or people who believe in it: do you think tripping on ketamine is the same?

Do you think people having OBEs from ketamine or high doses of dxm etc. are doing the same thing as people whose obes occurred naturally? in the astral supposedly when you're still in the earth plane if you transfer enough energy to your astral body you can pick things up and they'll be moved in the real world and you can "haunt" people. Do you think that'd be possible with drugs? I astral traveled once and I'm really desperate to do it again because it was so cool and i've been trying in my sleep but it hasn't worked yet so I'm thinking of taking the easy way out and using drugs. but would the things i experience still be "real" and would i be able to pick up stuff in the real world?